There has been a lot of talk lately about some of the measurements seen in the lottery picks.
Michael Beasley has been called 6'10 all season long, but he measures 6'7 barefooted. What's he wearing, platform shoes?
Since the ACC has NOBODY worthy of a lottery pick, there isn't any mention of the conference at all through your typical media outlets (ESPN, Sports South, magazines, newspapers). Luckily there is me.
Here are some stats from the five ACC players who participated in the Orlando camp last month. It doesn't include J.J. Hickson of N.C. State because he was dumb enough to refuse to play. Yeah, that's what a borderline first-round pick should do -- hide away so teams can't get a look at him.
Player Height(no shoes) Height(shoes) Weight Wingspan StandingReach Body Fat %
James Gist 6' 7" 6' 8.5" 220.0 7' 4" 8' 11.5" 4.8
James Mays 6' 6.75" 6' 7.75" 227.0 7' 1.75" 8' 9" 8.8
DeMarcus Nelson 6' 1" 6' 2.25" 198.0 6' 10" 8' 2.5" 4.5
Sean Singletary 5' 11" 6' 0" 183.8 6' 4.5" 7' 11" 4.2
Deron Washington 6' 5.25" 6' 6.25" 198.5 6' 9" 8' 6.5" 7.2
DeMarcus Nelson has a freakishly wide wingspan. Yet, surprisingly, he doesn't have great standing reach. He's more than 2 inches taller than Sean, yet his standing reach is only 3.5 inches. I would have thought his arms would have given him better height.
If you'd named these five guys and asked me to list them in terms of increasing body fat, I would have said James Gist (skinniest), Deron Washington, James Mayes, Sean Singletary and DeMarcus Nelson (fatest). Boy was I ever wrong! The list is almost the opposite of that. James Mays is the chubbiest? But he looks so slender! And Gist is so fat-free, every muscle on him shows; I was sure he was the slimmest.
| Player | No-Step Vertical | Max Vertical | Bench Press | Lane Agility | 3/4 court sprint |
| James Gist | 30.5 | 35.0 | 5 reps (185 lbs.) | 11.37 sec. | 3.14 sec |
| James Mays | 29.5 | 35.0 | 13 | 11.23 | 3.19 |
| DeMarcus Nelson | 34.5 | 38.5 | 19 | 10.54 | 3.13 |
| Sean Singletary | 26.0 | N/A | 18 | N/A | N/A |
| Deron Washington | 34.0 | 40.0 | 7 | 11.03 | 3.09 |
Only 14 players out of the 79 at the camp ran the sprint in less than 3.1 seconds, so Deron was in elite company. He was also one of only 6 players to reach 40 inches in the maximum vertical. He, Derrick Rose and Eric Gordon were the only three players to do both.
Eric Gordon? But he has such a chubby face. He looks like he needs to lose 10-15 pounds, so how in the world did he put up such numbers? His body fat index was 8.2 -- high for a guard.
Only five players bench-pressed 185 20 or more times, so DeMarcus and Sean were in elite company with their high reps. More impressive is that they are guards and the others are almost entirely post players. In fact, Stanley Burrell (6-2 from Xavier) is the only other guard with at least 18 reps.
Gist only managed 5 reps, so his slender arms hurt him a little. Hard to imagine him battling with the likes of Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire at the PF spot at his size.
So, are you wondering how the UNC trio would have stacked up?
Wayne Ellington had a max vertical of 34 inches and Tywon Lawson was at 34.5. Danny Green had a sprained ankle, but we all know he's better than both. If you need a reminder, think back to Greg Paulus have a little "green tea."
Even though he also had a sore elbow and hairline fracture in his wrist, Green did perform in the bench press and had 14 reps. Tywon also had 14, while Ellington managed only 7.
With his own ankle to think about, Ty didn't compete in the running drills along with Green. Ellington did with numbers of 12.05 in the lane agility and 3.20 in the sprint.
Umm, slow-footed PF Brian Butch was faster in the lane agility test. So were PF Darrell Arthur of Kansas and Gary Forbes.
Gary who? He played his first two years at Virginia, but wasn't getting any love. So he transfers to UMass, becomes the star of the team and puts up big numbers his senior year. Yet, people say he won't get drafted until midway through the second round because of his lack of athleticism.
Forbes, who is the same height as Ellington, had a vertical leap of 33.5, only half an inch less than Wayne. His sprint times were 11.45 and 3.25. So he was more than half a second faster in the agility run and just 5-hundredths of a second slower in the 3/4 court sprint. Sounds pretty good to me.
Now Forbes is no 3-point threat (29%), but he isn't afraid of a little contact -- he averaged 7.5 boards a game to go with his 19.4 pts., and still had 3 assists.
I can't see how anyone would doubt Forbes's athleticism and not question Ellington, too.
Since I'm talking about local players, I gotta mention my boy at High Point University. That's right, I've been taking evening classes at the school and have been highly impressed with a 6-5 forward who battles night in and night out against power forwards despite his build which is more suited to SG.
Arizona Reid. Somebody ought to bring this guy in for a workout. He could be the next Greg Buckner. Buckner was a good player at Clemson, but wasn't given any shot at an NBA career. But he plays hard and often is called on to guard taller small forwards despite being 6-4.
Look at A.Z.'s stats:
24 pts., 11 boards, 2.4 assists, a positive assist-to-TO ratio (which is amazing for such a scorer), and 1.7 steals. He shot 37.8% on 3's and 53.2% overall, which is remarkable considering he was the only legit scoring threat on the team and was often double-teamed.
The knock against him might be that he played in the tiny Big South conference, but he held his own against the likes of Player of the Year Tyler Hansbrough.
In the 2006-2007 season, the two teams met, and Roy Williams got his 500th win. But Reid had 26 pts. (13-23 FGs), 8 boards, 3 assists and 2 steals.
"They had more height, but I think I just had more heart," Reid said afterward.
Back on Jan. 2 of this year, he played Florida and put up 22 pts. and 9 boards, with 3 steals and a blocked shot.
Come on, NBA. Give this guy a shot!!!